MuscleNerd : You Can Downgrade from iOS 5 to iOS 4

The popular iPhone hacker MuscleNerd has just posted on his twitter account a good news for some iPhone users.MuscleNerd said that downgrade from iOS 5 to older iOS firmware is available.

MuscleNerd Said that :

iOS5 uses “nonces” , so trying to stitch/replay iOS5 blobs will fail (for now anyway)

And one of his followers asks about that and he replies :

tehh4ck3r :@MuscleNerd can we still downgrade from iOS 5 to iOS 4?

Musclenerd: @tehh4ck3r yep as long as you start in DFU mode (normal DFU will do), you can always downgrade to iOS4 with saved blobs

So if you have saved your older iOS firmware (iOS 4.3.3 for example) SHSH blobs, you will be able to downgrade form iOS 5 to iOS 4.3.3 which have untethered jailbreak.

Also you may want to check iPhone Dev-team post “Blob monster” :

It looks like Apple is about to aggressively combat the “replay attacks” that have until now allowed users to use iTunes to restore to previous firmware versions using saved SHSH blobs.

Those of you who have been jailbreaking for a while have probably heard us periodically warn you to “save your blobs” for each firmware using either Cydia or TinyUmbrella (or even the “copy from /tmp during restore” method for advanced users).  Saving your blobs for a given firmware on your specific device allows you to restore *that* device to *that* firmware even after Apple has stopped signing it.  That’s all about to change.

Starting with the iOS5 beta, the role of the “APTicket” is changing — it’s being used much like the “BBTicket” has always been used.  The LLB and iBoot stages of the boot sequence are being refined to depend on the authenticity of the APTicket, which is uniquely generated at each and every restore (in other words, it doesn’t depend merely on your ECID and firmware version…it changes every time you restore, based partly on a random number).  This APTicket authentication will happen at every boot, not just at restore time.  Because only Apple has the crypto keys to properly sign the per-restore APTicket, replayed APTickets are useless.

This will only affect restores starting at iOS5 and onward, and Apple will be able to flip that switch off and on at will (by opening or closing the APTicket signing window for that firmware, like they do for the BBTicket).  geohot’s limera1n exploit occurs before any of this new checking is done, so tethered jailbreaks will still always be possible for devices where limera1n applies.  Also, restoring to pre-5.0 firmwares with saved blobs will still be possible (but you’ll soon start to need to use older iTunes versions for that). Note that iTunes ultimately is *not* the component that matters’s the boot sequence on the device starting with the LLB.

Although it’s always been just “a matter of time” before Apple started doing this (they’ve always done this with the BBTicket), it’s still a significant move on Apple’s part (and it also dovetails with certain technical requirements of their upcoming OTA “delta” updates).

Note: although there may still be ways to combat this, a beta period is really not the time or place to discuss them.  We’re just letting you know what Apple has already done in their exisiting beta releases — they’ve stepped up their game!


For me I’m not interesting as I can wait for the untethered iOS 5 jailbreak specially the Chronic Dev-team promised to release iOS 5 untethered jailbreak.

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